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one more time about user notify dialog
by MasTiCorE on Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:14 am
i knew FAQ, search do not give me answers.
i want to connect to users without confirmation notify dialog.
i've entered key into dmware nt utilities, also, as it in FAQ, i tryed ro re-activate dameware mini remote control. Also ths not helped.
before install i've editied configuration file, set no notify dialog, and installed service with this configuration.
Not helped. Why?
PS: sorry for my bad english, no practice..
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by bryan on Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:33 am
Is this a "Permission" dialog that the user must click on "Accept" to allow you to connect? Do you see the text "Waiting for CLient to Accept the Connection" dispalyed within your Status bar at the bottom of your MRC window?
Or is this the Notify dialog that is displayed in the lower right-hand corner of the screen after you have already connected? Do you see the text "Evaluation" displayed within this Notifywindow?
Your feedback is appreciated.
Bryan Brinkman
Support Engineer
DameWare Development, LLC.
http://www.dameware.com
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by MasTiCorE on Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:58 am
Bryan wrote:Is this a "Permission" dialog that the user must click on "Accept" to allow you to connect? Do you see the text "Waiting for CLient to Accept the Connection" dispalyed within your Status bar at the bottom of your MRC window?
yes. I want to hide it.
user do not see icon of dmware in tray, no menu
but "Permission" dialog is showing every time that i want to connect.
user can click on "Decline". But i want, that user do not know about connected people to his computer.
Bryan wrote:Or is this the Notify dialog that is displayed in the lower right-hand corner of the screen after you have already connected? Do you see the text "Evaluation" displayed within this Notifywindow?
nope, no evaluation enyware.
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by bryan on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:19 am
So this is actually the Permission Required dialog, not the Notify dialog.
The need for Permission (Accept/Decline) when connecting to a remote machine using the MRC software is primarily based upon what right you have within the O/S security on that remote machine. However, the current Desktop State on the remote machine, and also some settings within the software itself are also factors in this equation as well.
Therefore, the very first thing you need to examine is what rights your credentials have within the O/S security on this remote machine, Administrator or non-Administrator, and by non-Administrator this refers to everyone that is not a member of the Administrators group on that machine either directly or indirectly via some other group membership.
There is also a "Permission Required" setting within the MRC Client Agent Service on the remote machine as well. Here is some additional information with regard to Permission that will hopefully help you out:
Administrators:
Administrators by default do not require permission in order to connect to any remote machine, unless you enable the “Permission Required” setting within the MRC Client Agent Service (at the top of the Additional Settings Tab). Then any Administrator would also require permission to connect. However, this does not apply when the remote machine is currently at the Logon Desktop or Lock screen. There is no way to prevent any Administrator from connecting to a remote machine when it is currently at this Desktop state.
Non-Admins:
Non-Admins cannot connect to any remote machine without requiring explicit permission from the Desktop user, regardless if the “Permission Required” setting was enabled or not. This is built into the software. The only time a non-Admin could possibly connect without requiring permission would be if the remote machine was currently at the Logon Desktop or Lock Screen. Then access would be Allowed or Denied based upon the “Disconnect if at Logon Desktop” setting (at the bottom of the Access Tab).
There are also several settings within the Client Agent that pertain to non-Administrator accounts that affect permission. If you look at the bottom of the Access Tab within the Client Agent Service, you will see three settings. "Permission Required for these Account Types", "Disconnect if at Logon Desktop", and "View only for these account types", and each of these settings only pertain to non-Administrators (not Administrators).
Another thing to keep in mind is that when you connect to a remote machine, it will be in one of two states:
1. Machine is sitting at the "Logon Desktop" or "Lock" Screen. Hence a user is not present on the remote machine.
2. Machine is not at the Logon Desktop or Lock screen, hence a user is currently logged into the desktop.
Scenario 1:
A non-Administrator tries to connect and the remote machine is currently at the Logon Desktop or Lock Screen. The non-Administrator will only be allowed to connect if the "Disconnect if at Logon Desktop" feature has been disabled (it is enabled by default). If it's enabled, their connection request will be denied with a dialog box stating: "The remote machine is currently at the Logon Desktop. Your credentials do not allow you to access the remote machine at the current desktop state". (just as you were presented with below)
Scenario 2:
A non-Administrator tries to connect and the remote machine is NOT currently at the Logon Desktop or Lock Screen (hence user is logged in). Then you must look at the "Permission Required for these account types" field.
A. If "Permission Required for these Account Types" is enabled, then whoever is currently logged into the desktop of the remote machine will be presented with a Permission Required dialog box asking to Accept or Decline this non-Administrator's connection request. If they press the Accept button, then the non-Administrator will be allowed to connect. If they press the Decline button, or if the dialog times out with no response, then the non-Administrator will not be allowed to connect.
B. If "Permission Required for these Account Types" is NOT enabled, then the non-Administrator's connection will be immediately denied with a dialog box stating: "The Remote machine is not currently at the Logon Desktop. Your credentials do not allow you to access the remote machine at the current desktop state".
I hope this helps.
Bryan Brinkman
Support Engineer
DameWare Development, LLC.
http://www.dameware.com
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by MasTiCorE on Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:21 am
thanks for your answer! It's helped to understand.
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by bryan on Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:10 pm
You are absolutely welcome.
It was my pleasure helping you out.
Best Regards,
Bryan Brinkman
Support Engineer
DameWare Development, LLC.
http://www.dameware.com
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by lufoxe on Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:48 am
Hi Guys, I am having the same issue, I am a local administrator on the machine, however I am still getting the dailog box is there anyway to force that off? remotely. I have tried remove and installing the service, also the DWRCs.ini file with the setting unchecked. any help?
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by bryan on Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:23 pm
Hello lufoxe,
Admin vs. non-Admin rights are not a factor for determining if the "Notify on connection" dialogis displayed when you connect. So are you speaking about the "Notify on connection" dialog that is displayed in the lower right-hand corner of the remote machine when you connect? Or are you speaking about the Permission Dialog, which requires the desktop user on the remote machine to physically press the Accept or Deny button for your MRC connection? If it's the Permissiondialog, then please see my previous post in this thread to resolve this behavior.
With regard to the Notify dialog, the first thing you must look at is if your local copy of the Mini Remote Control program is currently registered, or if its running in Evaluation Mode (Help /About DameWare MRC). Because if it's running in Evaluation Mode, then the notify dialog will always be displayed on the remote machine when you connect, no matter what settings are currently in the DWRCS.INI file. You will also see the text "Evaluation" displayed within the notifydialog as well.
The only other factor would be the actual configuration settings for the Client Agent Service itself, which are located on each individual remote machine. These configuration settings will either be stored in the Registry, or in the DWRCS.INI file, depending on how you configured the Service. During startup, the Service will first look to the "Use Registry for all Settings" key. If this is set to 1 (one), then all the additional settings will be retrieved from the Registry and the DWRCS.INI file will be ignored. If this key does not exist, or is set to 0 (zero), then the settings will be read from the DWRCS.INI configuration file instead.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DameWare Development\DWRCS\Settings]
"Use Registry for all Settings"=dword:00000001 or dword:00000000
However, are you looking at the DWRCS.INI file on your local machine, or in the System32 folder on the remote machine? Because the one on your local machine (in your DameWare Installation folder) is only pushed out the remote machine during Service installation, and then only if you also enable the "Copy configuration file DWRCS.INI" setting during the install. It is not copied to the remote machine each time you connect.
During the installation of the Service, click on the Install Options button then enable the "Copy configuration file DWRCS.INI" setting. Now click on the Edit button to modify the DWRCS.INI configuration file on your local machine. On the Properties dialog, select the "Notify Dialog" Tab and disable the "Notify on Connection" setting. Now click on OK twice to return back to the Service Installation dialog. Click on OK to complete the install of the Service, including your new DWRCS.INI configuration file.
I hope this helps.
Bryan Brinkman
Support Engineer
DameWare Development, LLC.
http://www.dameware.com
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by lufoxe on Thu May 01, 2008 5:52 pm
Thank you,
That has been a great help. I was reffering to the prompt not the eval version dialog.
Thank you very much
Re: one more time about user notify dialog
by bryan on Fri May 16, 2008 11:51 am
Hi lufoxe,
You are most welcome.
I'm glad we could help.
Best Regards,
Bryan Brinkman
Support Engineer
DameWare Development, LLC.
http://www.dameware.com